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Welcome to another episode of the Apple Insider Podcast.

This is Apple Insider Episode 119.

I'm your host Victor Marks, and with me is Neil Hughes, editor-in-chief.

Hey Victor, how's it going?

Brilliant, how have you been?

How are you doing all right?

Excellent.

So we had a rendering that we talked about on the site this week of a so-called

iPhone 8.

And this is, we're saying this is based on CAD files that are allegedly used for actual construction of the case of the phone.

This is some of the stuff that's leaked already that's out there showing a design of a device.

It's interesting because modern phones

are essentially just a slab and glass on it, right?

And so I remember a few years ago,

there was a leaked model that came out of a,

at the time was called a future iPhone,

and it turned out it was just some Chinese manufacturer

made something that looked a lot like an iPhone.

You know, of course, given patent disputes between Samsung and Apple and stuff, there are people that would allege copying, of course,

but at the same time, there's only so many ways to differentiate a

small you know piece of glass and metal essentially so you always have to take these

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