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The Broad Experience

Episode 122: Leading in Faith (re-release)

The Broad Experience

The Broad Experience

Careers, Society & Culture, Business

5.0592 Ratings

🗓️ 21 March 2018

⏱️ 28 minutes

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Summary

It's far more common than it used to be to see women in roles such as rabbi or priest. But these hard-won jobs aren't without their frustrations as well as their triumphs. In this show we meet three women. One went straight to her calling from college, the other two are career-changers. We talk about how women are viewed by the congregation, what you can get away with when you preach, and how getting ahead can still be tougher for women - even within denominations where women are accepted as leaders. Appearance came up much more than I expected during these interviews. These women have to manage their image just as carefully as any corporate executive.

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0:00.0

Hi everyone, Ashley here. I'm working on putting a few new shows together now, and while I do that, I'm re-releasing one of my favourites from the past.

0:09.5

I first released this show just after Easter and Passover three years ago. In it, I talked to three women faith leaders, one Jewish, two Christian.

0:19.7

There's so much these women have in common with the rest of us

0:22.3

who do not work in faith roles, but there are a few unique situations as well. And a quick note on

0:28.9

my use of the term dog collar for the clerical collar that vickers and ministers wear. My husband

0:35.3

told me I should have used the more formal clerical collar,

0:39.0

but honestly, growing up in England, I had never heard that term that I remember. I only ever

0:43.6

heard people talking about dog collars, including my uncle, who was himself an archdeacon.

0:50.0

I'll give you a quick update about all three women at the end, but now here's the show.

1:02.7

Welcome to The Broad Experience, the show about women, the workplace, and success. I'm Ashley Milne

1:07.8

Tight. This time on the show, what does it mean to be a woman in a religious role?

1:12.8

As soon as I sort of heard the criticism of this young female rabbi,

1:17.6

the first thing that I thought of was I don't think that that would be necessarily the way that people addressed a male counterpart.

1:27.3

How to react when people regard your pastoral body as public possession. that people addressed a male counterpart.

1:31.7

How to react when people regard your pastoral body as public possession.

1:34.1

I was walking across the sanctuary,

1:38.1

and I heard this young woman, a congregant, call out from across the sanctuary.

1:40.9

Those jeans make your butt look great.

1:43.9

And the perils of preaching when female. When I want to make eye contact across the

1:48.2

room and connect with people, I find myself looking at men and older men as if I need them

1:55.2

to approve of what I'm saying. Coming up, in the wake of Easter and Passover, three women

2:00.0

share their experiences of religious life.

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