Episode 120: The Most POWERFUL Story of Forgiveness and Reconciliation You Will Hear w/Mathais and Steven

The Carlos Whittaker Podcast

That Sounds Fun Network

Society & Culture, Personal Journals

5 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 3 August 2023

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

I am FINALLY home from Rwanda and in Nashville for a minute before going out on TOUR!!!

Last week’s episode with Emmanuel really laid the groundwork for this episode, so if you haven’t listened to that one yet, go back and listen to it first!

This week, we are going to go deeper into the story and into the beauty of what the human spirit can accomplish… This week’s episode is very specific on FORGIVENESS and RECONCILIATION.

Mathias and Steven were the worst of enemies. Mathias actually murdered Steven’s entire family in the Rwandan Genocide.

You get to hear their story of forgiveness and reconciliation from THEM! Not only do you hear about the forgiveness between these two people who are now as close as brothers, you get to hear about how Mathais forgave himself, which is something we could ALL use a little bit of.

Just a warning, this is a heavy episode, and there are talks of violence, so this may not be the episode for our younger Instafamilia.

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Listen to the first Rwandan episode HERE: https://pod.link/1249486443/episode/200cf7c2a03f3464cc47b68a320706e5

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0:00.0	Oh, yeah, then women and children hope is in the building.
0:11.1	What is up, human hope, Amelia coming back to you from Oh my goodness, I can't believe
0:15.6	I get to say this Nashville Tennessee Nashville Tennessee, I am back from Rwanda.
0:23.3	I am upside down and inside out.
0:26.3	Let me tell all your fools what it's all about.
0:29.1	Yes, I got I got rhymes is coming out of me, coming out of you.
0:34.1	Welcome to a very, very, very special human hope podcast that you have been asking for.
0:42.1	And I got it for you.
0:43.6	Dada, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da, da,
0:46.1	All right, we're going to fade out Dr. DeLine because we're going to get right into
0:49.5	it.
0:50.8	If you were keeping up on Instagram with my trip to Rwanda last week, we were able to
0:59.5	have a conversation with the manual and the manual is a pastor in Rwanda who really laid
1:04.8	the groundwork for our understanding of what happened in 1994 in Rwanda.
1:11.5	And with that, I am really blown away at the amount of you that again, didn't know, didn't
1:19.0	know what happened, the atrocities.
1:22.4	But this week, we're going to go deeper into the story and honestly into the beauty of
1:28.2	what the human spirit can accomplish.
1:31.8	This week's podcast is very specific on forgiveness, on reconciliation.
1:37.4	We've got Matthias and we've got Stephen and they are close friends that were the worst
1:44.9	of enemies.
1:46.0	Now, trigger warning for anyone listening to the podcast again, this podcast is between
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