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The Carlos Whittaker Podcast

Episode 119: The Rwandan Genocide From Someone Who Lived it ALL with Pastor Emmanuel

The Carlos Whittaker Podcast

That Sounds Fun Network

Society & Culture, Personal Journals

5 • 2.9K Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2023

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

INSTAFAMILIA! WE DID IT! You helped us raise money for a church building, Hope Center, AND a school in Rwanda!!!!!


I've been sharing with you all about my time in Rwanda on Instagram but wanted YOU to hear from the people I have spent the week with. This is episode one of two from Rwanda and this one will help lay the groundwork for the next episode about supernatural forgiveness that maybe we have never been able to find before…


Mathias murdered Stephen’s family in the Rwandan genocide and NOW they are closer than brothers… HOW?!


This episode, will help us understand what led to the genocide from someone who LIVED it all, including bullet holes to prove it, my new friend, Pastor Emmanuel....


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to a special Carlos's kind of quiet episode of the human-hope podcast.

0:06.1

I'm speaking a little quietly because I am in a guest home in Rwanda and there's people sleeping

0:10.8

around me. But I wanted to put out this special episode, special being that I wasn't planning on

0:16.4

doing it until I got here and I met a few people and this episode is going to, I think, really

0:23.2

stretch us. I recorded two conversations and I'm going to be giving you both of these conversations

0:27.3

over the course of the next few days and this first one is going to lay the groundwork,

0:32.4

to what I believe is going to be important for us to get to the step where we find this supernatural

0:38.0

forgiveness that maybe we've never been able to find before in our hearts. You know, a lot of you

0:42.1

saw the conversation just a three-minute clip of the conversation between Matthias and Stephen,

0:48.0

Matthias murdered six of Stephen's immediate family members and they are now close to them,

0:54.3

brothers. I still don't understand how that's even possible. That's a conversation that's going to

1:00.0

be coming second because I believe that this first conversation does lay the groundwork. I've

1:05.9

fallen in love with a new friend of mine here named Emanuel and Emanuel was a Rwandan refugee.

1:11.6

His parents actually escaped Rwanda in the, I want to say maybe in the 60s, 70s because

1:19.2

when I come to find out the genocide ideation began way before

1:25.2

1984. There was killings happening already before 1994 and it's because the government was already

1:32.8

dividing a unified people. They had one king before the Germans and the Belgians came in,

1:39.1

they had one king and they were one people group and then the Germans and the Belgians began

1:42.8

to divide them because what happened was when they divided them, they became weaker because they

1:48.0

pitted them against each other and we hear an incredible history lesson from Emanuel. Now,

1:55.5

one of the reasons why Emanuel is the person to give this is he was a refugee that came back

2:00.4

in the army because he wanted his freedom. He had no rights and because I asked him like,

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