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Sword and Scale

Episode 12

Sword and Scale

Incongruity

History, Society & Culture, True Crime, Documentary

4.063.8K Ratings

🗓️ 26 March 2014

⏱️ 74 minutes

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Summary

When 20-year-old Morgan Ingram tragically died in 2011, the family couldn't deal with their grief. What followed was a bizarre and prolonged Internet campaign of hate which has attempted to ruin the lives of at least a dozen people. Sword and Scale followed the rabbit hole to see where it would go, and we soon found that the pattern of behavior can be traced back to a mysterious individual named Sarah Afshar who interviewed Morgan's mom seems to have some sort of close relationship with. We dive head-first into this story and examine every aspect of it. No stone is left unturned. Morgan's family, and particularly her mother Toni Ingram, continues to claim that her daughter was stalked and killed, even though there is no evidence to support their claims. Toni has even publicly "outed" who she thinks is responsible on the web and on national television. Was Morgan really stalked and killed in the same house that her parents slept, did she commit suicide, or is there an even more sinister explanation to her unfortunate death like Munchausen by Proxy? We'll present you with the facts, but it's up to you to decide.

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Transcript

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can't remember the chain of events, but we finally got, I believe, the toxology report, if I remember right, and the autopsy.

0:07.3

And basically, it didn't match up what she was saying.

0:10.9

And then we never got the video of the stalker that she promised.

0:15.9

And then it just kind of all started.

0:17.7

When we got the police reports, it all started falling apart, everything.

0:23.9

And so I started questioning her, emailing her, asking her questions. And I can't even

0:31.0

remember if I got to reply back, but I asked her, she was supposed to come on my show again.

0:35.2

This was like two weeks after the first interview.

0:43.4

And she was all ready to go. And then she called me like on a Friday night, excuse me, my show every Sunday. And she called me on a Friday and said, she couldn't do it. She was traveling.

0:49.3

So I offered to do a show anytime, literally 24-7.

0:54.4

If she picked three in the morning, I'd do the show with her any time to come on and answer

0:59.4

these questions that people who were interested in the case had and that I had, and that I never

1:04.6

heard from her again.

1:06.3

So right there, the fact that we were able to just read some basic reporting by the police

1:13.7

and question her story and the fact that she just went away speaks volume.

1:20.8

She must travel a lot because she used the same excuse with me.

1:24.3

Oh, really?

1:25.0

Yeah.

1:25.5

She was traveling.

1:26.4

Well, it's interesting because a phone call.

1:29.3

And I know you, you will accommodate.

1:32.5

You accommodated me on the time for our interview.

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