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Her money comes to you through PRX. Hi I'm Jean Chatsky and welcome to her money our show about money by women for women because we noticed that when we were looking for

content for women about money there was just a lack of information out there and this is something so important we have to get on the

bandwagon and we have to make this conversation a continuing one in all of our lives.

We have a fun show coming up for you today. Renee Seiler, who many of you know from

her years at CBS this morning and also as the Good Enough Mother is in the studio with me.

We're also going to take your questions on credit card debt and paying off your student loans.

But before we get there, I just wanted to tell you a quick story about my shoes.

Interesting that I'm talking about shoes because I'm wearing a pair of shoes that I told Renee when she walked into the studio and complimented me on them are a pair that I've actually had for many

years. I put them on about once a year, at which point I realize that they're not especially

comfortable and I file them away in the closet because

they are very very pretty but you shouldn't wear them to walk around the city that's

just an aside the shoes that I want to talk about are a different pair of shoes. I had a

segment a couple of weeks ago on the Today Show where I started talking to

Savannah Guthrie about some important financial subject, mortgages, as a matter of fact, and my heel got stuck in the set.

We have a turntable at the Today Show

so that the anchor desk can rotate.

And I stepped into the groove, and I couldn't get out and I needed to be able to move so that I could

swipe across Al's weather monitor and make sure that all the information popped up to the top.

And in that moment, I almost panicked,

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