Hi, Year of Polygamy podcast listeners. This is your host, Lindsay Hansen Park. Just offering a trigger

warning for this episode. This is part two of part one, and you can find part one on Year of

polygamy.com. And both episodes contain descriptions of more explicit sexual content,

anatomy, and masturbation. So probably not an episode to listen to with children in the room.

And as always, if you haven't started the podcast in order, this series is meant to go in order.

Start all the way back at episode one and make your way through the top.

Enjoy part two of this episode with Roy Jaffes. So talk to me about you're getting your call to Zion and what you knew about it at the time and what that experience was like.

So fast forward, I guess, 2006 after, I guess just to just kind of clear up what happened back in L4.

So I was separated from my mom for like, I think maybe a month, maybe two, or when I was 11.

And that's when he finally, when I finally got to be back with my mom was when I was

there in the house alone where I was referring to that where he had me go back to the Jeff's

property so that's when I was there in the house alone so really quick that, why were all the other kids gone?

Well, so all the younger kids were down in Texas or wherever.

He had, some of the older kids, he had taken to Texas.

But I don't know.

It was just up to his discretion.

I don't understand why he would say, the Lord wants you to do this.

The Lord wants you to do that. And so he called me and had me transferred from my Uncle

Leroy's house back to the Jeff's property. And he didn't, I mean, I was 11, so I don't remember

the specifics of everything, but he just basically said,

this is what the Lord wants you to do, and had me go back to the Jeff's property. And that was my

first real experience with complete isolation as far as, you know, from siblings or anything

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