Hey, quick note at the top of the show. I just want to let you know that this episode took kind of a darker turn than we are used to, about two-thirds through, and we started talking kind of in depth about some infant mortality. If that's not something you want to listen to, I totally understand, and we will see you next week. If you're still on board, I hope you enjoy what was otherwise,

well,

and including that,

a very interesting conversation.

I kind of am addicted to this new app

I put on my phone called Boxer.

I don't know what that is.

Okay,

so I get really stressed out by text messages. Okay. Do you? Uh, yes. Okay.

Like, like, sometimes I read them and then in my imagination I have responded to them, but I have not

actually responded to them. Yes. That happens to me a lot. Yes, me too. And then my friends are like,

why did you ghost text me? And I'm like, why is that even a thing?

I recently heard somebody talk about double texting. What is that? And it's when you're having

conversation with somebody and they don't respond and then you say something else. Oh, I do that.

I know. I call that conversation. Right. I didn't know that there had to be like another name for it, but somebody recently was like, oh yeah, sorry for double texting you. And I was like, no. If you had two things to say, then say two things. Why are you apologizing? Also, that's what I do all the time. Yeah. No, me too. Okay. Well, and I don't know that this app is going to be for you or anything,

but I listened to somebody talking about it on a podcast or something. So Voxer is where you can

leave people voice messages. Oh, nope, I hate it. Okay, but I love it because I don't like talking

on the phone. Right. And text message stress me out. Right. But sometimes I just want to leave, like,

basically a voice memo for someone that basically in 30

seconds or a minute says something funny or like something that would take too long for me to text.

But it's funny and I want them to know about it.

So it's like haytale.

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