Welcome to the worst bestsellers, where we read about how the secret works so you don't have to.

I'm Kate. And I'm Renata. And for this episode, we read How the Secret Changed My Life by Rhonda Byrne.

Joining us to discuss this self-help scrapbook are Andrew and Craig, who hosts the Overdue podcast, a weekly show about books you've been meaning to read.

They're not all bad bestsellers, but they've done episodes on the 50 Shades series, The Da Vinci Code, and the

Secret, which they think gives them enough cred to be here. Hi, Andrew. Hello. Hi, Craig. Hey,

how's it going? Well, I should put any negativity out into the universe, so I'm going to say

everything in my life is great. It's so good out here

in the world. It's genuinely so good to have Andrew and Craig here with us. I know that we don't

normally make you all listen to men's voices and now we have two of them, but I think you'll

understand. I think you'll appreciate them if you are not already previous existing fans of Andrew and Craig's works, you will be.

You'll get it.

It's on their vision board.

It's true.

I just think it's good for you guys to be getting a man's perspective on something.

I think we bring an important view to the to the, to the universe, and everybody really

should be subjected to it at all times.

Absolutely.

Yeah, really, really under-explored, you know, under, you know, underrepresented.

Representation matters, guys.

Yeah, why aren't there more men in podcasting?

Oh.

It's because they're all sabotaging themselves with negative thoughts.

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