Hello and welcome back to another episode of the year of polygamy podcast.

I'm your host, Lindsay.

And I need to give a warning to all the listeners.

If my voice sounds a little off, that is because I am fighting a really bad cold.

And I'm a little loopy because I'm on cold medicine.

Luckily or maybe unluckily for me, I'm not sure.

My guest is also sick and on a lot of cold medicine.

And so this should be a really interesting exercise in trying to be clear-headed while talking

about a very serious issue. You are going to all be

excited about my guests because he's one of the most popular guests on the show. Everybody

sends me feedback all the time. This is one of the most popularly cited podcasts whenever this

guest is on. Joe Geisner, can you say hello?

Hello and hello, Lindsay. And most will probably consider me sick in the head. So this should fit right in that we're both sick right now. Well, that's a given, yeah. So for those who don't

remember, Joe Geisner did two episodes for us back in the day about violence in in

1850s Utah I believe and Joe is really such a good resource I know so many people who when

they're working on projects not just myself but many others who will email Joe and say hey do you

have an article or do you know

a topic or a book on this specific topic? And Joe is sort of like an encyclopedia and you know

everything. You're very kind. Thank you. And I love history, definitely love history. And my first love has always been, well, besides my wife has always been books.

So I enjoy reading.

And we cover your background a little bit in some of the first episodes that you were on.

So I'll make sure I link to that.

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