Greetings dear listener.

This is Jonah Goldberg of the Remnant Podcast. I'm sitting here with Jack Butler. I know

what you're all thinking. It's so weird that Jack and I both have new haircuts, but we

can't talk about that right now. Amazing how they could tell.

I know. It just gets sense it. It's in the air. Atmosphere is electric. So this is a, this

is, I hope it's not outdated. I don't think it is. I haven't listened to it in a while. Jack

is it particularly outdated? It's timeless. It's timeless. Okay. I recorded a while back in

Grand Rapids, Michigan the morning after I gave a speech for the Acton Institute's Acton

University big conference thing of, I had got together with my friend David Bonson of the

aptly named Bonson group who is also something of, well you certainly an author. He wrote

the crisis of responsibility, but he's also something of an intellectual in his spare

time. David is insanely knowledgeable about things theological and whatnot. And we did

it a podcast a few months, about almost a year ago now, right? The first one. Oh yeah.

I thought you were talking about this one. And I didn't expect it to be popular. And

it turned out to be remarkably popular with a lot of people. You might want to go back

and listen to that one too, where we talked about his book and we talked about all sorts

of theological Christian doctrines and whatnot. Anyway, we were together again in the same

place. We decided to do another podcast. I did, you know, pandering, pandering to the

Craven sort of just give me that dopamine fix passions of the audience. I started the

podcast with a strange conversation about the, about theonomi and then it got a little

egg-eddy. So it may not be everybody's cup of tea, but I enjoyed it. I hope you enjoy

it too. And in the meantime, before we get all that started, since I'm not really going

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