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In Bed With The Right

Episode 115 [PATREON PREVIEW] -- Olivia Nuzzi's American Canto with Michael Hobbes

In Bed With The Right

Adrian Daub and Moira Donegan

Health & Fitness, Sexuality, Society & Culture

4.8661 Ratings

🗓️ 6 January 2026

⏱️ 27 minutes

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Summary

To start the year off right, Moira and Adrian were joined by Michael Hobbes to discuss Olivia Nuzzi's American Canto, the media hubbub about it, and what both artifacts say about our media environment, our elites, and about gender.

Pieces we cite in the episode:

Becca Rothfeld's review of the book in the Washington Post

Alexandra Jacobs' review of the book in The New York Times

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi, everyone, and happy new year. To start 2026 off, Moira and I had a big plan, a three-part

0:06.3

series on the rights love of education and educational grifting, ranging from Peter Thiel's

0:13.3

Antichrist Lectures to, you know, various YouTube universities with heavy, heavy quotation marks,

0:19.6

to the actual scam universities that

0:23.2

right-wingers from Donald Trump to Barry Weiss are so fond of. Well, we did record two and

0:29.6

half hours of material for this series, and we just felt it wasn't quite up to snuff yet.

0:35.7

We're going to re-record. We're going to do this series for sure.

0:38.8

But for now, what we decided to do was to give you a little bit of a teaser of an episode

0:43.0

that went up on our Patreon just last week.

0:45.5

It's an in-depth discussion of Olivia Nuzzi's American Canto, which has been burning

0:50.6

up the worst of year lists across 2025.

0:56.3

Michael was kind enough to stop by and talk to us about this book. We all three read it, and now we're inflicting it on you. So this is

1:02.2

going to be the first 15 minutes of our Patreon conversation. If you want to hear the rest of it,

1:06.2

please subscribe to our Patreon. It really helps us do this kind of show. And while we're obviously a little

1:11.7

bit embarrassed to have recorded two and a half hours and then listen to it and we're like, yeah, we can't

1:16.4

inflict this on people. Your support through Patreon does make that possible that we can just sort of say,

1:22.7

look, this isn't good enough. We edited it and we listened to it. We didn't think it was quite up to

1:27.3

snuff. We're going to go back to the drawing We didn't think it was quite up to snuff.

1:28.1

We're going to go back to the drawing board and do a new version of this episode, talk to some

1:31.8

experts, maybe get some guests and figure out how to tell this story right. That takes time

1:37.0

and honestly it takes some money as well. So yeah, it kind of feels right to inaugurate 2026 with a plea for our Patreon and for your support.

1:48.6

If you can't do it, if you can't make it, don't worry about it. We totally get it. But you do

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