Hi friends, and welcome to another Robcast. This one is part four of the series I've been doing with our beloved friend Pete Rowlands.

This is part four Pete Rowlands on God, and we actually recorded it in Belfast.

And they hooked up some mics, and we had this conversation. And I don't know about you, but this whole series with Pete.

This whole series of conversations, interviews, whatever you call them has been just amazing.

So they recorded this conversation, and then we got the file, and I don't know if there's some funky reverb or something on it.

So it sounds a little, I don't know, echoey. So I just wanted to know we know that, but the conversation and what Pete did was so profound,

or like we're just going to put it out anyway. So there you have it. I hope you enjoy.

Hello friends, and welcome to another Robcast. This one we are doing from Belfast, Northern Ireland, and my beloved friend Pete Rowlands is with me.

I can't believe you're in Belfast. I can't believe you're here. It's incredible in my huma time. I love it. I love it. I'm sitting there watching you do your thing and going, this is fantastic.

So we've been doing this series. If we're going to finish this series, let's finish this four part series on God in Belfast, Pete's hometown.

We flew here especially forward. Last time we talked, we were in the back house in LA, and now we're here.

Tell me there's such a, Belfast has such a history of violence, what it was like to grow up here.

Yeah, well you've walked around the city. It's a tiny city. When I grew up, that was walled. There were military walls right around the whole thing with these checkpoints, these tunnels that you walk through, and you were body searched.

There were black dogs, sniffer dogs. The army were everywhere. There were military vehicles everywhere. And then every time you went into a shop, you got padded down as well.

I remember the first time I went to Scotland, and I went into a shop and I stood there, and my friend was like, why are you standing there and going, well someone's got a search me.

Like just the grocery store? Just a grocery store. Any shop, every shop you had to be padded down.

Like TSA, like American airport security, but just to go to the grocery store.

Just to go to the grocery store. And that was after passing through a major security checkpoint with dogs, rifles pointed out you, just to go into the city center.

I remember one time when I first visited you, when you were still living here, 2008, you took me to a part of town where like one side of the street was passing, one side was Catholic.

And that if you went into this neighborhood and you were from this neighborhood, you would get beaten up. And if you were in this neighborhood and you went to that neighborhood, you'd be in trouble.

Yeah, it was like one street.

Yeah, and there's a, yeah, it was probably the falls, road, and the shankal road, and there's a massive peace wall between them.

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