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Hello and welcome back to the low-carb MD podcast troll we did it again

we got Dr. Ben Bickman he told us not to call him doctor but I couldn't help

at just this one time but we have Ben Bickman he's one of our big, he's taught us a lot.

I mean, he went back to our overview. A lot of his message and what he's doing has

impacted us. And so it's such an honor to have you back then.

Forl what do you have to say man?

No all I have to say is this is he is light years ahead of most of us doctors. He's thinking about ways he can nourish the

people around him. He's thinking about ways to support them intellectually by

being an author, esteemed author, as well as an esteemed scientist, published work.

But not only that, he's so damn clinical man.

I'm thinking about how do I get my community and invigorated about exercise.

This guy's already done an exercise program

with his community, with a nutrition program,

and he's measured the outcomes,

and he published a report.

And here I am thinking, I'm asked, right before we got on the show I'm asking

Ben how do I do it teach me I'm literally like begging I'm like Ben please help me you know I

have Thomas Clifford and me we're trying to get this like local program up and we need the

help and we need the smarts of people like him and the passion of people like

him. So I'm really happy and we and we dragged him in to talk about his book

why we get sick.

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