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COURTSIDE with Neal Katyal

Episode 11 (original 2020 series)

COURTSIDE with Neal Katyal

Neal Katyal

Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.9614 Ratings

🗓️ 22 January 2021

⏱️ 7 minutes

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Summary

November 17, 2020


An in depth look at Mayor Giuliani’s courtroom argument, Trump’s huge loss in the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, and the antics in Michigan/Wayne County. (Short answer on latter: won’t stop Biden but lawless and evil and Soviet nonetheless).


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0:00.0

Welcome to Courtside, everyone, where we discuss the post-election litigation brought by Donald Trump.

0:05.9

It's day 14 after the election. Happy two-week anniversary. Crazy Town is starting. That's your present.

0:12.9

And we've had all sorts of antics today. We've had Giuliani in the courts. We've had Michigan nuts stuff happening.

0:20.0

And Trump today fired tonight, fired the Department of Homeland Security guy. I talked about yesterday, Christopher Krebs, simply report for reporting that he and all the election experts have found no fraud. The count stands at 1 and 25. Trump's on one case, a little itty-bitty one for a tiny number of votes. He's lost 25

0:39.2

other ones. Today, he had a huge loss in the Pennsylvania Supreme Court, and is one of Trump's

0:45.7

last big cases, actually, and he lost it five to two, according to the vote, or as Trump likes

0:52.0

to call it, a decision unanimously in his favor. Well, what did the

0:55.6

court do? It threw out all this stuff Trump's been saying about ballot watchers. It said that

1:00.7

the rule of six feet distance was reasonable and authorized by state law and that it didn't undermine

1:06.3

anyone's rights. And as I say, the decision was five to two, but actually the two would have gone even further and said that Trump had no business trying to invalidate any votes using the court's power.

1:18.1

So it was actually a unanimous vote against him, seven to nothing.

1:21.6

And there was a lot of high drama because that decision from the Pennsylvania Supreme Court came down right as one Rudy Giuliani was arguing in federal court trying to get votes invalidated.

1:33.6

And if you listen to him today and you could dial in, it was quite incredible.

1:38.5

He sounded more like the kind of thing that someone would scraw on a piece of scrap paper when you're wearing an

1:44.5

aluminum foil hat or something like that. Giuliani really struggled beyond all words. The judge

1:50.4

asked him a simple question as his first question. He said, look, are you really saying these

1:55.1

allegations would justify the extraordinary remedy of throwing out all the votes? Giuliani paused for a long time and couldn't answer the question.

2:04.5

He just went back to his aluminum foil hat talking points.

2:08.6

That led even the National Law Journal, which is perhaps the most stayed newspaper in America,

2:14.4

makes the, you know, like the kind of corporate newspapers like

2:17.7

Barons and stuff look, you know, out there. And the headline tonight was, quote,

2:22.5

Giuliani stumbles over fraud claims in Trump election lawsuit to debut. It was also revealed

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