Episode 109 - Lost In Lebanon: 18 Nameless Years

Two Nice Jewish Boys

Eytan and Naor

Society & Culture

1.7 • 804 Ratings

🗓️ 2 October 2018

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Operation Peace for Galilee. The Lebanon War. The First Lebanon War. The 1982 Lebanon War. It’s got a lot of names. The first full blown war the IDF engaged in across its border with Lebanon. The war ended in 1985 - you know, if you look on Wikipedia. But 15 years followed, 15 nameless years. 15 years in which Israeli soldiers - 18 to 21 year old kids - were stationed within Lebanese territory embroiled in a long, drawn out, seemingly endless affair. 15 years of casualties. 15 years of trauma both for the individual soldiers and their families and for the nation as a whole. One of those soldiers was named Matti Friedman, a Canadian who emigrated to Israel and drafted to the IDF in the late 90s. After, basic training Matti was stationed on a hilltop outpost named the Pumpkin. The Pumpkin became briefly notorious in Israel in 1994 when Hezbollah fighters staged an attack on the outpost, killing a soldier and wounding 2 others. Had this been all, the outpost wouldn’t have garnered all that much attention. After all, hundreds of Israeli soldiers had been killed in Lebanon since 85. But this wasn’t all. Matti Friedman is a journalist and author. His much acclaimed The Aleppo Codex: A True Story of Obsession, Faith and the Pursuit of an Ancient Bible was awarded the Same Rohr Prize for Jewish Literature in 2014. His recent book, Pumpkinflowers: A Soldier’s Story of a Forgotten War has been extremely positively reviewed by the Wall Street Journal, The New York Times and countless others. We are so honored to be joined today by Matti Friedman.

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0:00.0	I'm Aiton Weinstein. And I'm Naor Menninger. And you're listening to Two Nice Jewish Boys.
0:10.8	Operation Peace for Galilee. The Lebanon War, the first Lebanon war, the 1982 Lebanon War.
0:17.6	It's got a lot of names. First, full-blown war the IDF engaged in across its border with Lebanon.
0:23.6	The war ended that fall in September 1982, but 18 years followed.
0:28.6	18 nameless years.
0:30.6	18 years in which Israeli soldiers, 18 to 21-year-old kids for the most part,
0:36.6	were stationed within Lebanese territory,
0:38.9	embroiled in a long, drawn out, seemingly endless affair.
0:43.6	18 years of casualties, 18 years of trauma, both for the individual soldiers and their families,
0:49.4	and for the nation as a whole.
0:51.8	One of those soldiers was named Mati Friedman, a Canadian who emigrated
0:55.1	to Israel in 1995 and drafted to the IDF in 97. After basic training, Mati was stationed
1:01.6	on a hilltop outpost named the Pumpkin. The pumpkin became briefly notorious in Israel
1:07.2	in 1994 when Hezbollah fighters staged an attack on the outpost, killing a soldier, and
1:12.9	wounding two others. Had this been all, the outpost wouldn't have garnered all that much attention.
1:18.9	After all, hundreds of Israeli soldiers had been killed in Lebanon since 85. But this wasn't all.
1:24.7	Mati Friedman is a journalist, an author, his much acclaimed the Aleppo
1:28.1	Codex. A true story of obsession, faith, and the pursuit of an ancient Bible was
1:33.1	awarded the Sammy Roar Prize for Jewish Literature in 2014. His recent book, Pumpkin Flowers,
1:39.0	A Soldier's Story of a Forgotten War, has been extremely positively reviewed by the Wall
1:44.1	Street Journal,
1:44.8	the New York Times, and countless others. We are so honored to be joined by Mati Friedman.
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