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and the aftermath.

And we're seeing, we're seeing the kind of the next wave of that in the response to the

Snowden revelations.

It's got a bunch of our countrymen.

And again, not the wingnuts, a lot of people in the center, a lot of very thoughtful

members of our body politic are saying, all right, the president, the congress, and the

courts are on board.

But that's doesn't constitute consent of the governed anymore.

That's consent of the governors.

You told them, which you didn't tell me, and fundamentally, I think that's the crisis

it oversight.

I'm Cody Poplin, and this is the LawFair podcast, January 31, 2015.

That was General Michael Hayden you just heard, former director of both the Central Intelligence

Agency and the National Security Agency.

Last weekend, General Hayden delivered a keynote address at Washington and Lee's School of

Law, which hosted a symposium on cyber surveillance in the post-Snowden age.

During his address, General Hayden outlined an unapologetic defense of the NSA's recently

revealed activities, yet remained candid about where the agency has made mistakes and where

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