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Welcome to the Apple Insider Podcast, episode 102.

I'm your host Victor Marks and joining me is the esteemed editor and

and all he surveys Neil Hughes.

Hey Victor, how's it going?

It's great.

How are you doing?

I'm doing all right. I know you're out in Las Vegas right now for

CES. I am out in wonderful, fantastic Las Vegas. And CES is...

Is it wonderful? It's a little chilly to be honest, but CES is an interesting show. It was characterized by a fellow on Twitter as being sort of a cross between a bargain basement of weird stuff and the sales flyer best buy.

I mean isn't that pretty much every trade show though? I think so. I mean I think that's kind of the nature of any trade show whether you go to

C. S you go to E3 you go to whatever that you have your like especially if it's a big

one you have like your premium brands for those of you that never been to one of these shows you have

like your kind of premium big name brands that'll have flashy booths big presents like a big

keynote presentation and then you have this weird underbelly of just strange

foreign-made products with misspelled signage and promises that they could never keep and things that will never

come to market it's a it's a weird mismatch of things. Yes and

CES especially because CES focuses on being the one of the two leading events for innovation, the other one being

EFFA in Berlin.

And so you get everyone bringing just about everything from common cases and cables, which we try not to cover too much, all the way to bizarre automotive accessory inventions or crazy stuff.

There's the TV section where people bring in the greatest and latest TVs that they

want to sell us on.

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