Everybody, what is going on? You know what time it is. You're listening to join the Journey podcast with your host, Emma, daughter.

Thanks for joining. I am in the podcast studio with today's Devo writer, Mr. Ben Caldwell.

Well, Emma, it's so fun to be with you here today. My name is Ben Caldwell, as you shared, and I have the privilege of serving here on

the elder team at Watermark, and it is one of the deep joys of my life, getting to serve alongside

men that I love deeply and I respect deeply, and to get to serve this church. I am a husband of Terry,

and I am dad to five young kids.

Five.

That's right.

So the Caldwells, we say we bring the crazy wherever we go because our kids are all young.

So they are eight years old, down to 10 months in this phase of life.

And so it is the classic.

The days are long.

The years are short.

That's the season of life that we're in. But man, it is really, really sweet.

That's awesome. And today, which, fun fact, I'm the oldest of four. So I know a tiny taste of the crazy, not quite five.

Now, are you close? How close are you in age to your siblings? Two years between me and the middle, and then the youngest two are twins, five years.

Oh, so you guys are closely packed.

We're pretty close.

Similar to ours.

Yeah, pretty similar.

The twins was a big surprise, but they're boy girl twins.

And I wanted a sister, my brother wanted a brother, and we got both. Well, my son Cade, he's our oldest, and he prayed for years for a baby brother.

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