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B Hello? Hey Joe, it's Chris Colin. What's going on?

Oh, what's up, Chris?

What are you doing?

Driving right now.

I'm in Idaho, driving across rural Idaho heading to Smith Rock.

I'm surprised you even have sell up there, dude.

Have you climbed up for Smith before?

No, I haven't.

So.

I'm going to say, we're getting a little bit of climbing time in but it's not really like a climbing trip.

So I don't know I kind of mixed feelings.

It was like my first time going to Smith Rock and it has to be a photo shoot so I'm going to like you know hopefully get a little

climbing time when we're not shooting and I don't know see the place for the

first time man yeah you gotta keep climbing you're like a well-oiled machine now yeah I know, I know, I know. It's like either climbing or training or I'm traveling. That's kind of like the deal now.

Oh, boo-hoo. But anyway, that's the reason I'm calling you is I've been, uh, I wanted to talk to you about this boot camp thing because, um,

I've been hearing about it because I know I know you guys I know Dan and I know Sam and so I've been hearing about it and now

BD's been releasing the videos and I wanted to ask you a little bit about the program.

So what did they do to you guys?

What did they do to us?

Yeah, what was the program?

So, I mean, you have to understand, we we kind of formed it by ourselves like I think Sam

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