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At Last She Said It

Episode 102: Did It Ever Matter?

At Last She Said It

Cynthia Winward

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality

4.91.1K Ratings

🗓️ 2 August 2022

⏱️ 60 minutes

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Summary

There's a tension in our church between things that change and things that some members consider to be unchangeable. It can be hard to distinguish between the two, and our history would suggest that more things are probably changeable than we think. Figuring out what matters, why it does, and when that may change is an ongoing process, personally and institutionally. To answer those questions for ourselves, we must approach practices and programs in a way that helps us uncover spiritual meaning in them—or sometimes not. In this conversation, Cynthia and Susan talk about some specific changes they've experienced during their church lives, and ask the question: Did that ever matter?

Transcript

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Sometimes when we've sacrificed to be obedient and it is a sacrifice sometimes to live all of the rules that we try to live.

0:10.0

When we've sacrificed like that, it stings to suddenly find one day that the rules have changed.

0:17.0

We're defensive of the things that we have been asked to sacrifice for.

0:21.0

And it gets even trickier because part of defending the church's

0:27.0

truth claim, which is very important to many members of our church, is this idea that, you know, quote,

0:34.2

the Lord is at the head of this church.

0:40.6

Hi, I am Cynthia Wynward. And I'm Susan Henkley.

0:44.0

And this is at last she said it.

0:46.0

We are Women of Faith discussing complicated things.

0:50.0

And the title of today's episode is,

0:53.0

Did it ever matter?

0:55.0

I'm pretty sure you and I have said that to each other more than once.

0:58.0

So, so many times, does this matter?

1:02.0

Did this ever matter? and there are some things kind of in the

1:06.0

that have been in the LDS churchy news that have made you and I say that to each

1:11.7

other a little bit more lately so right right and things that we've talked

1:15.4

about on this podcast in a recent episode I was saying that I sort of like peeling back the

1:20.4

layers on the thing to sort of try and understand what's at the heart of it, right?

1:24.9

You did?

1:25.9

And I was talking at that point about the sacrament in our Sunday worship and how it just sort of

1:31.7

disappeared for many women during the pandemic and then it even like disappeared from our

1:38.0

Zoom broadcasts, right? I mean like they just turned it off.

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