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What is the, you know, I'm trying to think here.

Let's talk about, the point you brought up about high absorbers and we were learning

more about leaky guts and you know you referenced irritable bowel syndrome which probably has a

leaky gut component underlying it. Do you feel that probably many of those people tend to be

high absorbers of ox late as well.

Oh, yeah, definitely. That's very well established in the literature. And they,

bariatric surgeons also are quite aware that half of their, half of their patients who get this surgery are going to end up with some form of kidney problem. And they don't even warn people. It should be part of

the consent form. Hey, do you know that if you have bariatric surgery, you're never going to have

spinach again? They don't even teach them that they need to be oxalate aware. The unwillingness

to be aware of oxalate is really the biggest concern. But you can definitely see that certain

groups like the mid, the Middle

East where they drink a lot of tea, the reason Golden Bird knew about oxalates is because

he had tea every day and potatoes and he must have liked some high oxalate, he must have

liked rhubarb or something like that. Whereas in France and Germany they weren't completely in agreement about

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