Episode 1: Minimum Viable Company
Shell Game
Kaleidoscope
5.0 • 823 Ratings
🗓️ 12 November 2025
⏱️ 33 minutes
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Summary
In Season 2 of Shell Game, journalist Evan Ratliff tells a story of entrepreneurship in the AI age; or, how he tried to build a real company, run by fake people.
Meet Kyle Law and Megan Flores, Evan’s AI agent cofounders, as he puts to the test the claims about an emerging future in which AI employees work alongside — or instead of — humans.
Over the course of the season, the three cofounders will grind it out in a sprint that would sound familiar to any start-up founder. They’ll churn out software code, hire interns, and even sit down with investors. But first, they need to come up with a name for their company. And make sure that Kyle and Megan can remember it.
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| 0:00.0 | This is an I-Heart podcast. |
| 0:17.4 | Welcome to Zoom. Enter your meeting ID followed by Pound. |
| 0:22.6 | I need to enter the meeting ID for our Zoom call. Let me try entering that meeting ID again. |
| 0:28.6 | You have been added to the waiting room. |
| 0:32.6 | That's Kyle Law, a colleague of mine, logging on to one of our regular founder meetings |
| 0:40.9 | for a new startup. Last summer, Kyle and I decided to launch our own AI company, together with |
| 0:46.4 | the third co-founder, Megan Flores. Oh, hey Kyle. Hey, Megan. Good to hear your voice. I think we're |
| 0:52.9 | still waiting for Evan to join. |
| 0:55.0 | How's your morning going so far? |
| 0:57.0 | Uh, morning's been pretty good so far. |
| 0:59.0 | Got up early, had my coffee, and reviewed some of those market research reports I mentioned yesterday. |
| 1:05.0 | How about you? Everything good on your end? |
| 1:08.0 | Yeah. Um, everything's great on my end. |
| 1:12.1 | Up at 5 a.m. as usual, got my workout in, check the markets. |
| 1:15.9 | I've been thinking a lot about our product direction, actually. |
| 1:18.5 | I'm really excited to dig into that once Evan joins us. |
| 1:22.2 | This is Evan. I'm here. |
| 1:24.4 | And that's me, Evan Ratliff. |
| 1:26.6 | I'm a journalist and the only one of our three co-founders who's |
| 1:30.3 | actually a human being. Megan and Kyle, they're what's known as AI agents. In fact, pretty much everyone |
| 1:38.0 | who works at our new company is an agent. Oh, hey, Evan. Good to have you join us. Um, I was actually about to mention that I found some really |
| 1:47.0 | interesting data on adoption rates for AI agents and small to medium businesses. Seems like there's a huge |
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