Welcome to at last she said it. A podcast where women of faith come together to

acknowledge that it's complicated and support each other while we figure it out. In my opinion, becoming comfortable with discomfort is basically

the way of opening ourselves to growth. We might still have to get dragged into the zone, Cynthia. We're not going

there willingly, but not allowing our fear of discomfort to keep us from engaging once

we get there when we find ourselves there that can be a big step toward moving

to where we're going next willingness my favorite Cynthia word willingness I believe

that's the key.

Hello friends and welcome to today's episode of at last she said it. I am Cynthia Wynward and I'm here as always with Susan Hinckly down who's down in Arizona. How are you Susan?

I am happy to be in Arizona Cynthia the flowers have started to open

or heading to 80 degrees. I think it's time for everyone to come to Arizona.

Well, I'm coming soon for our retreat on March 12th,

and we weren't gonna make them an announcement about that today,

but I'm just gonna to say personally I'm

excited to come to the sunshine with the cactus blooming and that'll be fun for me.

The guacmolea waits my friend come on down. Oh the guacamolea waits, my friend. Come on down.

I'm on my way today right now.

That sounds fabulous.

Well today's episode, we are calling Holy discomfort and Susan you and I seem to add the word holy on to quite a few things that we do we we call ourselves holy Troublemakers. Yep.

I think we are.

We like to use the phrase Holy Envy

after our favorite Barbara Brown Taylor book.

So we kind of just seem to take these words

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