Episode 081 — We Have Always Been at War with Amazon
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Ben Thompson / James Allworth
4.6 • 832 Ratings
🗓️ 3 June 2016
⏱️ 54 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, James. Ben, how are you? I'm okay. How are you? Doing all right. It's been a little bit of a long |
| 0:07.0 | week. I've been a bit out of it, but I'm on the mend. It's been a rough run these past few weeks, |
| 0:14.1 | but I'm hoping I'm coming to the end of it. Yeah, nose is okay. Nose is all right. Eyes are right. |
| 0:20.4 | And then this, it's just like I've been taking a few punches. |
| 0:24.3 | But it's, you know, that old thing, it never rains at pause, right? |
| 0:28.0 | Yeah, it's been a rustle. |
| 0:29.7 | At least it's been a rainy spring for you as opposed to like the rest of California. |
| 0:34.6 | Yes, this is true. |
| 0:35.9 | This is true. |
| 0:38.1 | So this week, I thought there's one thing I wanted it. |
| 0:42.0 | We talked about it a little bit previously, but I, just this light bulb moment, I'm kind of annoyed at myself for not getting this before. |
| 0:51.3 | But you'll recall we talked about and I wrote about like the Amazon tax idea |
| 0:56.7 | a while ago. And this idea is that basically, if you squint, all of Amazon's businesses are |
| 1:04.1 | kind of the same. And you know, you start with AWS and retail. And yes, retail started with a |
| 1:10.1 | traditional retailer model where they would sell items and collect a margin on them. |
| 1:13.8 | But as they've shifted to this general merchandise that's taking off more and more of their profits, and this is a reason I was, you know, unfortunately temporarily bearish on them. |
| 1:23.0 | Like there's no margin there. Like just no margin at margin at all. And there wasn't going to ever be. |
| 1:29.0 | And is like, well, what were they doing now? |
| 1:31.2 | And, you know, kind of became clear over the past six months to a year that even the retail model is becoming more of a, it's a fulfillment model. |
| 1:40.2 | And they're skimming money off the top between not just the general merchandisers, but also third-party merchants, which is growing hugely as part of what they sell. |
| 1:49.6 | And they're just, they handle all the part in the middle and they own the customer relationship. |
| 1:53.9 | And then they're just, you know, they take off, they get $100 from the customers who are in prime. |
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