Welcome to at last she said it, a podcast where women of faith come together to

acknowledge that it's complicated and support each other while we figure it out.

We love to ask the question, what do you know? So what is one thing that you really know?

Mm. I know that God is in every living thing.

I know that with all of my heart.

I have a really poignant memory of when I was a teenager, right?

Those conflicted, difficult teenage years.

I had an argument with my parents

and I left my house, up in my slickers and I walked all the way up my road. I walked up past this big just Woffage Boulevard if anyone knows it just this big road up straight up the canyon and I walked and I walked and walked and

I walked and walked until I got to a trail that I loved and I lay down in the dirt and I felt held in a way that I just can never articulate.

That is beautiful. And it's a feeling that I will never be able to part from.

It's shaped who I am. It's shaped my sense of identity and reality and I think that is a key for everyone on the planet

to go to spaces in nature to really tap into where you fit in the cosmos and where you fit in the

cosmos and where you fit in the love of God and in the love that is through all living things and it's something we need so desperately in a time when anxiety and depression are at an all time high and disconnect from nature is an all time high I know that that's where we can find God absolutely totally agree thank you for saying

Hello friends and welcome to today's episode of at last she said it. I am

Cynthia Wynward and I'm here with my co-host Susan Hinckley. How are you

Susan? Hi Cynthia happy to be here. We are joined by a guest today. We're joined by

Catherine Knight's sauntag. Hello Catherine. Hello. Hi Catherine. We're so glad that you

are joining us. We wanted to have Catherine on because she has written a beautiful book of poetry called

The Tree at the Center and it's all about seeking the feminine divine. It's just beautiful. I've spent the last few days reading it and I'm excited to delve into that a little bit more with her.

So we're calling this episode The Mother Tree and we will probably get more into why we are calling it that,

and Catherine has some ideas about how, what led her to this topic as well,

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