Welcome to at last she said it. A podcast where women of faith come together to

acknowledge that it's complicated and support each other what we figure it out.

Hi friends, it's Susan Henkley and I'm here of course with my friend Cynthia Wynward hi Cynthia hello Susan we've been excited about. We have a special guest joining us. We've

been looking forward to this conversation, both the topic and just getting this

specific voice on our podcast. So today we're being joined by Dr Julie D'Azevedo Hanks and we are going to be talking about who's in charge here.

I love the title. Yep, the discussion is going to focus on

general authority versus personal authority, which is something that figures

hugely into your life as a Latter-day Saint woman.

So we're excited to hear the insights

that she has to share both personally and professionally

with us on this topic.

So welcome, Julie, how are you today?

I'm doing well.

I'm happy to be here.

Hi, Julie.

Hi, I think this is a great topic.

And Julie and I had been talking a couple of months ago

about different things that we could speak about on the

podcast and this was one of the ideas. She had thrown out a couple ideas and when she threw out

this one and it's based on, we will put a link in our notes, it's based on an article that she wrote several years ago, right Julie?

It was like five years ago.

It was a while ago.

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