Welcome to At Last She Said It. A podcast where Women of Faith come together to acknowledge

that it's complicated and support each other while we figure it out.

Okay, Susan, we are here.

We have started a podcast. What were we thinking?

I don't know, but we're going to find out. There are like 82,000

podcasts out there but we are excited to be doing this because at last she said it.

At last she said it. At last she said it. Apparently there was not a podcast that said exactly the things that we wanted to say so there was

at last we're going to have one. So how did this come about Susan because I feel like you and I have been

talking about this podcast for at least six months. How did we finally settle on it? Let's do it.

It came about because we, I mean as I see it, we kept having conversations and just about

at the end of every conversation we'd say that should be a podcast episode totally and so obviously was something

that we wanted to talk more about or hear more about or think more about and so

after we got enough of those after it sort of became our standing joke, then we thought, hey, maybe it really

should be a podcast episode.

It really did become a standing joke.

I felt like you're right, every time we had a conversation we'd be like, if only someone would do a podcast about this.

So why not you, why not me?

We're smart.

Exactly.

We can do this.

So for myself, Susan, I feel like not only do I have these conversations with you and other girlfriends,

but I feel like so often I would be at church and we would have a lesson on whatever,

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