Well, first of all, Heather, thank you so much for joining us.

I really, even just looking at the cover of the book, it's okay to go up the slide,

renegade rules for raising confident and creative kids.

I hearken back to my elementary school days and getting yelled at by teachers for trying to

climb up the slide like a little adventurer in first and second grade.

So it's bringing back happy memories just to start with.

Ah, good.

Yes, I think this book is written for adults who remember what it's like to be a kid and how we can support that.

Fantastic.

There are so many things that I want to get into, but one of them really jumped out at me right away,

and it's that we've been told all of our lives, don't talk to strangers,

and then I grew up to do like radio shows and broadcasts where I'm talking to hundreds of strangers a day.

You're saying, don't say don't talk to strangers.

Why?

Why is that a key tenant for you?

Yeah, well, as you say, we've been told that all our lives, but it doesn't work.

It doesn't keep kids safe.

And that's the number one reason why I'm suggesting doing something else.

They're finding that kids who have experience interacting with the world, which includes talking to people you don't know, people on the sidewalk as you're walking down the street or people at the grocery

store, the clerks, anybody who might be a stranger, the kids who grow up interacting with

people and not being terrified, not freezing when they come up to a stranger, actually

are safer.

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