Lesson after lesson and diet has proven wrong, right? Avoid saturated fat. Avoid total fat.

Eat more healthy whole grains. Use more corn oil. Use more mixed vegetable oil. I mean, over and over

the conventional advice, it's not only proven ineffective, it's proven harmful.

Welcome to the Fat Emperor podcast.

I'm your host, Ivor Cummins.

We're supported by the Irish Heart Disease Awareness charity,

which advocates a simple CT scan to reveal your CAC score.

So know your score and take action to prevent that premature heart attack.

Everything you need to know will be right here a very special podcast today because i have none other than william wheat

belly davis a cardiologist extraordinaire who has incredible knowledge patient experience and huge

quantities of research all around heart disease,

but in recent years going way beyond heart disease.

So it's an honor to meet you finally directly, William.

Thank you, Ivor.

I'm glad to be here.

Excellent.

Well, the first question I was going to start with,

and actually I won't start with the question yet, I just want to talk a little around my sponsor, David Bobbitt, who I know you are very well familiar with. And you were a huge support to him, along with many other top cardiologists back in 2012, when he had discovered he had enormous heart disease, even though he was acing all his ECGs,

treadmills, he had a score of nearly 1,000 calcium, and he had three primarily blocked arteries.

So maybe we could have a quick word about that story.

Well, David's story is a great illustration of how ridiculous the conventional approach to heart

disease is, which is treat your cholesterol, this lousy, outdated marker for the factors that

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