Well, hey everyone, it's Nate. Thanks for joining us on this episode of the Vinyl Guide podcast.

Today we are going to be talking with Michael Girard of Swans. Michael joins us to discuss the new

album from Swans, Leaving Meaning, which is available for pre-order at young godrecords.com. You got to get there

quick. There's a pre-sale happening now. It's a 2-lp set,

only 25 bucks. It's an extremely limited numbers. It comes with a poster, a special insert,

and signed by Michael. All that for 25 bucks. So I recommend you point your browser to young god

records.com and get a copy for yourself before they're going.

Now, Swans is a very interesting band. I won't begin to attempt to describe them as any

words I say will likely fall short and be deservedly undermined by some of the recordings

in their vast catalog. What I will say is this. There is

no band like Swans. They are as unique as can be. And Michael, being the producer and nucleus of

Swans, is equally inimitable. The new LP leaving meaning is a next step for Swans. And Michael

shares today on how that album came together,

how the record leverages a cast of musicians selected for each song by Michael who creates

a path for each of them to contribute to the arrangement and material. Michael also shares how he

writes material, how he moves through the creative process and develops works like leaving meaning.

There's beauty, there's darkness, sometimes both in Swan's music.

So again, young godrecords.com, leaving meaning pre-order, two record autographs set.

Do it now.

Now here on the vinyl guide podcast, I do not run ads. I won't try to sell you a

mattress or a website. However, I do need to eat. So, I've set up a Patreon page at patreon.com

slash vinyl guide, where I put a lot of extra material, additional bits from interviews, secret

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