Hey all, something a little different today. I really enjoyed this next conversation.

And it's with Michael Franziz, who was a mafia boss featured in Forbes magazine, one of the richest,

back in the 70s and 80s. And he did nearly 10 years of hard time and then came out born again,

basically. And he has since been lecturing and giving inspirational talks to schools, universities, corporates, all over

on how you avoid gambling problems and generally avoid crime.

So a great guy, fascinating character.

We touch on his fascinating history and politics in

America and even the whole COVID issue to get his inputs and the mandates and all

that kind of crazy stuff that was going on you'll be amazed to see how good

he looks for his age and enjoy the conversation I'm delighted to meet with you

here Michael well it's good to be here aboard thank you and you know what your Enjoy the conversation. I'm delighted to meet with you here, Michael.

Well, it's good to be here, I'm here, I'm here.

Thank you.

And you know what?

When I was a kid, I remember watching television in Ireland, and it was the British television. And there was a program on called Crime Inc.

I-N-C-Dot.

And it went through the kind of era of the 60s and 70s and 80s as a documentary with police footage. It's quite hard hitting and I was fascinated. But it'd be great if you gave a summary because you actually were a big part of that era. I think in Forbes magazine, you are in the top kind of 20 or 30 leaders in that whole

kind of interesting world. Yeah, it was actually Fortune magazine that wrote an article about

the 50th, wealthiest, and most powerful mob bosses. And they featured me as one of six that they

featured. And then they have me as number 18 out of the 50 in an order of rank and wealth and power.

But that was back in 1986.

And yeah, it was certainly a different lifestyle, Yvore.

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