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Inner Cosmos with David Eagleman

Ep132 "What will AI mean for the economy?" with Andrew Mayne

Inner Cosmos with David Eagleman

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Health & Fitness, Education, Science, Self-improvement, Mental Health

4.7620 Ratings

🗓️ 1 December 2025

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

If AI can do everything from writing novels to designing proteins, what remains that only humans can do? What's the human advantage in a world where machines can outperform us at almost any measurable task? What does any of this have to do with Stephen King’s nightmares, Tom Cruise’s stunts, the first shoeshine caught on camera, the shortage of air conditioner repairmen, and why hyper-capable AI might actually increase the demand for unexpected jobs? Today we speak with author and technologist Andrew Mayne.

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0:00.0

If AI can do everything from writing novels to designing proteins, what exactly is left that only humans can do?

0:12.9

Do we care about the story behind a piece of art who made it, who suffered for it, when AI can

0:19.3

produce the same words or images.

0:22.1

Which jobs are really at risk?

0:24.7

Is there any such thing as a human advantage in a world where machines can outperform us

0:30.4

at almost any measurable task?

0:32.8

What does any of this have to do with The Plow or Stephen King's nightmares or the first shoe shine caught

0:39.9

on camera or Tom Cruise's stunts or the shortage of air conditioner repairmen and why

0:47.4

hypercapable AI might actually increase the demand for unexpected jobs. Today we'll speak with author and technologist Andrew Main.

0:59.6

Welcome to Innercosmos with me, David Eagleman.

1:02.4

I'm a neuroscientist and author at Stanford.

1:05.2

And in these episodes, we sailed deeply into our three-pound universe

1:09.0

to understand how we see the world and what our world might come to look like very soon.

1:19.6

This is an I-Heart podcast. Guaranteed Human.

1:39.1

When you look around a subway car or a coffee shop, you see people scrolling on their phones with essentially no movement of their bodies except for their thumbs, but inside their skulls, 86 billion neurons

1:46.1

are firing away. Each neuron as complex as a city, each one alive with electrical storms,

1:53.1

flickering tens or hundreds of times every second. These vast inner cosmoses are running constant

2:00.2

simulations of the world around us, of the future, of each

2:04.2

other. And one of the things that makes our species unusual is that our brains are not simply

2:08.8

built for getting food or escaping predators. They are finely tuned social prediction engines.

2:16.5

A huge amount of the cortex is devoted to thinking about other

2:20.2

people, their motives, their reliability, their intentions, their reputations. We carry around

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