Ep125 "Why do brains need friends?" (with Ben Rein)
Inner Cosmos with David Eagleman
iHeartPodcasts
4.7 • 620 Ratings
🗓️ 13 October 2025
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Why do human brains need social interaction? Why might AI chatbots be insufficient to scratch the itch? What do we love so much about real human touch and in-person interaction? Why do so many of us live with dogs? From empathy to introversion to social media to isolation (and what to do about it), we’ve got it all this week with guest Ben Rein, author of the new book Why Brains Need Friends.
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| 0:00.0 | Why do brains need friends? |
| 0:07.5 | Why do human brains in particular need social interaction? |
| 0:12.3 | And how does that interaction affect the brain? |
| 0:15.8 | Are AI chat bots enough to scratch the social itch? |
| 0:19.3 | Why or why not? |
| 0:20.3 | And what do we love so much about real human touch, |
| 0:23.5 | in-person interaction? |
| 0:25.3 | And for that matter, why do we love dogs? |
| 0:28.1 | From empathy to introversion to social media, to isolation, |
| 0:32.0 | and what to do about it, we've got it all this week |
| 0:34.3 | with guest Ben Rain. |
| 0:39.0 | Welcome to Inner Cosmos with me, David Eagleman. |
| 0:41.6 | I'm a neuroscientist and author at Stanford. |
| 0:44.3 | And in these episodes, we seek to understand why and how our lives look the way they do. |
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