This is Annie Grace and you're listening to this naked mind podcast where without judgment,

pain or rules, we explore the role of alcohol in our lives and culture.

Hi, this is Annie Grace at the Snaked Mind Podcast. You probably know this, but Dr. John

Sarno has been incredibly influential in my life and my work in terms of both healing

me with excruciating back pain but then going on to be really the foundation for what

the snake in mind was built upon. And I had the opportunity recently to be interviewed

on a woman's podcast. Her name is Caitlin Michaels and she calls herself a mind body

mentor and she's actually has a podcast called the Mind Body Mastery podcast and it

was all built on her own healing experience with Dr. Sarno's work and it was a beautiful

podcast and amazing experience and I really just enjoyed it so much. I asked her if I could

take the recording and share it with all of you. So I hope you enjoyed this as much as

I did and really get something out of it. Thank you so much and have a great day.

Hello everyone and welcome to episode number 16 of the Mind Body Mastery podcast. I'm

your host Caitlin Michaels and I'm so grateful that you're tuning in again today. And so on

the show today I have an amazing interview with Annie Grace of thissnakedmind.com. Annie

is an amazing, amazing human in this world. Her work is changing lives every single day and I

brought her on the show today because her work focuses on alcohol use and and how the emotions

or the unconscious can play a huge role in the development of alcohol dependence or maybe

if you're someone who just finds that they drink more than they would like or if you're

someone who kind of has these two competing voices in your head, you know one saying like

you deserve it, it relaxes you and the other saying like why did I have too too many. Annie

kind of shares why that is and and lets you know that you're not alone in in having

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