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Welcome to Raising Good Humans. I'm Dr. Lisa Pressman and today's episode is with Dr.

Tova Klein. She's the toddler whisperer. She's the director of the Barnard College Center for

Toddler Development and an adjunct professor at Barnard College. She has a phenomenal book called

How Toddlers Thrive. What parents can do today for children ages 2 to 5 to plant seeds of lifelong

success. Today, we're talking about siblings and sibling relationships, sibling conflict,

sibling transitions, the whole sibling gamut. And if you enjoyed this episode, please don't hesitate

to subscribe, rate, and write a little review. And you can always DM me on at Raising Good Humans

podcast on my Instagram. I am so excited to share this episode with you because siblings comes

up all the time and siblings in a pandemic is a whole other ballgame.

Siblings are the biggest gift you can give a child. So you bring another child into the world.

This is for life. It's going to be a lifelong relationship. One of the problems with that is when

that new baby comes. They're pretty dull in the mind of the toddler. They don't play with them.

They don't do much. And everybody's saying to the toddler, oh, your big sister, your big brother,

and yet that toddler themselves is a baby still, really a baby. So to think of sibling relationship

as a lifelong journey, not just that first week or the first month of the first year.

But to know that that's a relationship that's going to develop in time.

One of the biggest challenges of having siblings is that it's love and not love or love and not

like. So really, if you think about it, it's love hate between siblings. And I don't mean hate,

like, in the adult world, but I want to be with you. You're my little brother, sister. Eventually,

you'll be fine. I can't stand that you take all the attention of my mom and daddy.

And so it's a very jealous relationship at the same time. It can be the biggest bond that a child

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