I describe my work a lot like an artist that you know it doesn't matter what people you know if some people don't like it or not as long as I'm getting

fulfillment from the act of doing the art and the self-expression and then

you let the chips fall where they may and if people like it, it's incredible and if they if they don't well you're

still okay too.

Welcome to Living 4D with Paul Che. Today Paul is talking with Big Wave Surfer, Laird Hamilton.

In addition to being one of the best known surfers in the world, Laird is also a renowned innovator and guiding genius of crossover board sports, including towing surfing, stand-up paddleboarding and Hydrofoil Boarding.

He is a best-selling author, stuntman, model, producer, TV host, fitness and nutrition Expert, Creator of Extreme Performance Training,

and founder of Laird Superfood, as well as Husband to Professional Volleyball Player

Gabrielle Reese and the father.

Considered by many to be one of the world's greatest athletes and big wave surfers,

an incredible all-around human being, humanitarian, and father, and

longtime client and friend of mine, Laird, Hamilton and I get together for a deep dive today.

In this podcast, Laird and I get into how he created a

vocation out of his passion surfing and why doing what you love to do is so

important in life. We talk about Laird's books, videos, and his roles in big screen movies such as a James Bond movie that he was in.

Some of Laird's biggest challenges he's had to overcome, what fear is, how illusory and yet real it can be, and how Laird uses fear as fuel for accomplishment,

completion, and to break through challenges.

We talk about Laird's superfood company and the

mission and values behind it, who some of Laird's greatest influences have been in

his life. We get deep into the spiritual practices of breathing and the

relationship between breathing and the spirit and soul of us,

and we clarify what spirit and soul are.

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