I'm April Vokey and you are listening to Ancard. My chance to interview some of the most influential

people involved in the fishing world today. Join me as I travel to sit face to face with my

guests to be able to partake in personal conversation about their careers, opinions, history,

relationships, and life both on and off the water. Peter Hayes is probably best known as a world casting champion

and as a highly regarded casting instructor. A longtime guide and owner, he is fully immersed in the industry, and he has

few qualms about speaking his truth when asked to.

I met up with Peter and Tasmania for a casual sit-down. I had a few expectations about what he might disclose to me,

but I left with a mind full of philosophy, heartfelt discussion, and a better glimpse into the life of Mr Hayes. I started off as a fly fishing guide 21 years ago after I left engineering, mechanical

engineering, mechanical design engineering actually and I had a bit of a life change when a marriage

didn't work and I came back to my birthplace Tasmania and started a guiding business.

So after three years of summertime guiding business

where I would in winter go back and do contract engineering,

a mate of mine said, why don't you create your own job in winter instead of do contract engineering

work.

So I thought it would be sensible to vertically integrate and do a bit of casting instruction.

So way back then maybe 94 or 95 or something I started

doing casting schools. So their summertime guiding is very busy with 95% repeat business.

And then in winter the casting schools have turned into a big deal.

And I can remember the very first one actually, the first one a mate of mine who's got a fishing newspaper, best fishing newspaper in the world, has fishing in Boatingnews.com.

Mike Stevens said, why don't you do your casting classes and I'll advertise your first cast free of charge?

So he spent two magazines, two months worth of effort, advertising Peter Hayes,

learn to fly fish and improve your casting,

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