This is Annie Grace and you're listening to this naked mind podcast where without

judgment, pain or rules, we explore the role of alcohol in our lives and culture.

Hi, this is Annie Grace and welcome to this naked mind podcast. Today I'm really

excited because I have a naked life story with Dean and so Dean welcome. Thank you so much for being here.

The problem. Welcome, punk, Sunny. Yeah, this is so cool. So love to just, you know,

start at the beginning with you. Why don't you just start, start way back and give us your story.

Well, yeah, I had a brilliant childhood. I was taught mainly by my mother and grandmother.

Alcohol wasn't at all in the in the game. Neither me mom or my grandmother drunk.

Mainly because of the abusive relationship that they were in. So I never really come into contact

with alcohol, talk, often tell perhaps when I was around about 17, 18 and then that's where it all

began. Going out with my friends and pretty normal relationship with your own king.

Do you remember your first drink? Well, saying that, I used to go to the local club with my granddad

and I was a step of as as as beer didn't like it at all. And I think when I first started drinking,

I only drank with my friends. Instead, I was mainly into me computer games and things like that.

Probably a bit of a late rivalry. Like I still am. I was quiet out and still playing computer games at

16, 17 when perhaps all the people were going to the local parks and drinking and things. So

but I made up for that, don't we? But there's as a time went on. But I've always had an addictive

personality when I wasn't drinking. I was eating lots of chocolate a lot more than everybody else

all the time. Whatever I've done has always been more than everybody else.

So so so basically when I left school, I ended up being worked from my dad.

He had a cleaning company. And I think that's when when I first started seeing people with

drinking problems because the industry that we were in, it was just fluffy, fluffy people

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