Welcome back to The Reeducation.

Today's show is an interview-only episode with Jonah Goldberg, founder of the dispatch and author of

liberal fascism, tyranny of clichés, suicide of the West, and the host of a very popular

podcast you may have heard of called The Remnant.

Please enjoy.

It's a great conversation.

Well, we are really lucky today to have a great guest, author of the very underrated book,

The Tyranny of Clices, not to mention liberal fascism and Suicide of the West, author of the G underrated book, the tyranny of cliches, not to mention liberal fascism and

suicide of the West, author of the G-File, which you should be reading, and founding editor

of the dispatch, Jonah Goldberg, thanks so much for coming on the re-education.

That's my absolute pleasure, Eli.

Yeah, it's been great.

So the reason I wanted to have you on is because it looks like if the polling is correct,

which is always a big if, there's no stopping Trump in the Republican primaries.

And a lot of our mutual friends have been warning us again, what if Trump wins again,

American tyranny.

And, you know, I think that there is a lot of fair critique, obviously,

of this prospect, but there's a bit of, how would I put this? One wonders of some of these

people who are writing for the Atlantic are aware that if you're worried about weaponizing

government or worried about these kinds of things, and there's a lot of bad behavior to go

around on both sides. So with that in mind, first of all, do you think at this point Trump is

inevitable? Okay, so as a nominee, not winning the only. Yeah, putting on my pundit hat. Yeah. I think

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