We play with the same heart fire and no quit like we did last year.

You know what?

I wouldn't be totally surprised to see us really competing.

Nobody picked us Chuck in 2005.

You're following me?

What I'm saying is if things were all right, you never know.

That was White Sox pitching coach Don Cooper last week on the podcast saying,

don't brush aside the White Sox in 2018. He believes the Sox can really compete. So can they?

What will it take? And a little hint on my end, I think they can compete in 2018.

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So Chuck Garfin here with Ryan McGuffey and Chris Kampka as we delve into this subject.W.W.W.W.W.W.W.comst.com slash So Chuck Garfin here with Ryan McGuffie and Chris Campa as we

delve into this subject. Let's begin with what is competing. How would you define competing,

Ryan McGuffie? I would define competing as being a player in the wild card race. So in this

case, the second wildcard race, you are a

absolute legit threat as we hit August into Labor Day weekend

playing with let's say within two to three games of that second wildcard that to me is competing at 500 is not. I mean I guess at this day and age 500 is competing, but

you are a playoff threat. That's what competition. That's what compete to me means. To me, compete means, you know, being able to be somewhere around 500. It isn't necessarily getting to a wild card. But that being around 500 gets you, puts you in at least the mix. I don't think so. I don't think so.

I mean, it could.

It could.

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