We have potentially 1.7 million documents about foreign surveillance, most of which is legal that's been released,

and a debate over the very program he was concerned about that has expanded in the years since he did that.

And he's living under the cover of a repressive regime.

I don't blame him for not wanting to come back, and I think that what he did was a net positive, because I can't even imagine what those surveillance programs would have looked like a decade later now if we never had the American public realizing our rights are being violated.

Welcome to The Lost Debate, a show for Politically Ecclectics. I'm Robbie Gupta.

And I'm Ricky Schlaught.

Well, Ricky, I see you're back in the studio.

How are you feeling?

I'm feeling better.

I think it was a little medication on an empty stomach mishap and you're upstate.

How's that?

Yeah, I'm up in Kanondagua, up outside of Rochester.

Really lovely up here this time of year, you know? I don't know if the weather changed in New York

in the past 24 hours, but it was like rainy and gloomy and cold in New York and it's beautiful

up here, which was the opposite of what I was expecting. Yeah, we have a sunny day here,

but I think we're kind of in the depths of the cold still. And have you, has your game happened yet or is that upcoming? Tends to happen on Sundays. Okay, well, you know, sometimes it's Mondays, I don't know, maybe a Thursday. Yeah, I'm in friendly territory. A lot of Bill's fans out here. So it's cool to see.

So, you know, it should be an easy win for us, which is why I'm going to this game. You know, I try to pick the games where we're overwhelmingly favored. So I think I think it'll be pretty good. Sure, why not? It's more fun to win. Well, on today's show, we're going to talk about Edward Snowden and his recent move to becoming a Russian citizen.

We're going to talk about red-shirting boys in school.

We're going to talk about Gen Z and a bit of a crisis of purpose that Gen Z is going

through.

But we're going to start, Ricky, with political ad targeting.

There's been some really fascinating data that was just released about how political campaigns

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