We want to respond to crises, but we don't want to just be like, hey, yeah, we're just going to greenlight the money. You know, DeSantis is sitting there with Biden saying, yeah, we don't really need to put red tape around this money. I'm like, I'm sorry, that's our money. And the way we spend this money is really important. We're talking about billions of dollars down the line. Money that has been incentivizing all the wrong things. So like in a weird way, this bipartisanship to

me is actually pretty alarming in certain ways.

Welcome to The Lost Debate, a show for political eclectics. I'm Robbie Gupta. And I'm Ricky Shalat. Well, Ricky, you had quite the adventure on the way to work today. Tell us what happened. Yeah, I wasn't feeling great when I left. My stomach was a little off. And I said, no, I'm going to go be a responsible employee and be there on time and show up. And I threw up on 6th Avenue, which is a right of passage

as a New Yorker, I suppose. If you don't add to the vomit piles that are on the sidewalk all

the time at least once, then you're not really a New Yorker. So I've been inaugurated. Oh, yeah,

it was really embarrassing. And then I like, I really embarrassing. And then I, like, I freaked out.

And then I came home and I was on the phone with my mom, kind of bitching and moaning about it.

And my neighbor overheard me and came over and brought me tums, which was very sweet.

Wow.

So I'm, I'm ready to go.

I'm all tumsed up.

But we're recording remotely to keep me at arm's length. Wow. Well, thanks for doing this. Obviously, if you have to drop off at any point, I'll just Stephen A. Smith this from now from here forward and just talk on my own. Well, it's good practice because we're going to be remote on Thursday as well because you're traveling, right? Yes, going up to the Canadian border for a couple of days. And then I'm going to see the bills take on the Steelers at Orchard Park, New York, which should be pretty nice. I think we're favored by like 100 points in that game. So that should be pretty nice. Nice little slam dunk. Yes, slam dunk. We have a fun lineup today.

We're going to talk about a perceived crisis in the fake meat market.

We have a real crisis in the housing market potentially.

And then we're going to talk about tipping and some trends, some worrisome trends in the culture of tipping. But let's start with tragedy

unfolding in the south. We are still surveying the devastation from this hurricane. Ricky,

what do we know as of today? Yeah, this is set to be one of the deadliest storms ever to hit Florida.

The latest tolls show that around 87 people have died, at least.

And it could be up there with one of the costliest storms ever.

Projections vary at the moment, but one from CoreLogic put it between $28 and $47 billion.

It's absolutely devastating. It's going to take years to rebuild where Florida does

rebuild. Many people won't return. And Marco Rubio described it as a character altering event. So it's

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