if you've done the training so that your base level of C. C and E concentration clarity equanimity is high enough then when the fear of Corona or death at your death bed.

When that fear comes up, it will be different for you,

not a source of suffering or not as much a source of suffering.

So mindfulness can definitely help with fear,

even strong justified fear.

Welcome to Living 4D with Paul Chek.

Today, Paul is talking with Xinzen Young.

Xinzen is an American Mindfulness Teacher, Author and Neuroscience Research research consultant. His systematic approach to categorizing,

adapting, and teaching meditation, known as Unified Mindfulness, has resulted in collaborations to Harvard Medical School, Carnegie Mellon University,

and the University of Vermont.

Welcome to Living Forward to you with Paul Check. I am very excited today to share an interview

with somebody that I've been wanting to have not just an interview with but a dialogue

with for a very long time and fortunately one of my HLC 3 students Michael Holt is also a

student of Xinzen Young so Xinzen and I have been connected through Michael Holt and we finally get a chance to, you know, spend some time together and share as much love and wisdom and life experience as we can with the audience.

So Shinzan, it's an absolute pleasure

to be able to share you with my audience on Living 4D.

Well, thank you for giving me the bully pulpit

to share my ideas slash loviate.

You know one of the things I love Shinsen my first exposure to your work was your audio book program, The Science of Enlightenment.

I also have two copies of the book.

I went I went through it two times and taken copious notes and I absolutely just felt this

amazing harmony with you because I love the fact that you mix science principles and mathematics, as well as deep spiritual teachings to get, you know,

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