Hi this is the Josh Marshall podcast. We're doing another one of these breaking news special editions of the podcast today because in case you were under a rock you know there's

been just an avalanche of news this week pretty much all centering around this emerging scandal with

President Trump and Ukraine and Rudy Giuliani and all of this so what we want to do

is there's even been a lot of new news even this morning so we want to kind of catch up on the key details, catch you up on the key details, and sort of knock around where we think this is going

and we're gonna get into it.

So I'm here with my co-host, Kate and David,

and we're joined again by Josh Kavensky.

So Josh, let me just kind of throw this to you. What has happened today?

And we are, and just for our listeners, we're recording this around 1 PM, a little after 1 PM on, got it, data. according to

on one p.m. on uh, on uh, date. Thursday. Thursday.

So what's this, where are we, Josh?

So two big things happen this morning.

One is that the House Intelligence Committee released a mostly und redacted version of the original whistleblower complaint filed in August 12.

It's what sparked this whole thing.

And also the acting director of national intelligence just McGuire

testified before the house and so what was let me let me ask because I was in some

meeting so I wasn't actually able to see a lot of that testimony. What was, what were the key

takeaways from that testimony and he is the acting director of

national intelligence, head of the whole US intelligence community. Yeah and I mean he's

a long time Navy Intel guy. He gave a really bizarre performance.

I mean, he didn't really go to the substance of the complaint itself, but more to how it was handled.

You know, the fact that the White House asserted executive privilege over it,

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