Ep. 83: Rudy’s Dirty Little Secrets in Ukraine
The Josh Marshall Podcast
Talking Points Memo
4.9 • 1.8K Ratings
🗓️ 24 September 2019
⏱️ 45 minutes
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Summary
TPM investigative reporter Josh Kovensky outlines the recent history leading up to the burgeoning scandal involving Trump pressuring the Ukrainian government to dig up dirt on Joe Biden. Before coming to TPM, Josh reported from Kyiv and is familiar with all the players involved. He helps break down everything you need to know about the whole saga.
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| 0:00.0 | Hi, this is Josh Marshall and this is the Josh Marshall podcast. We have, well I think we know what we're talking about today, right David? |
| 0:11.0 | Yeah, a lot going on. |
| 0:12.0 | Kind of everything, I mean there's a lot going on. Kind of everything. |
| 0:13.0 | I mean, there's a lot going on, but now... |
| 0:15.0 | Yeah, we have one of these like vortices. |
| 0:18.0 | Like everything is like kind of circling this one big story that wasn't even... |
| 0:24.0 | Josh, when was... when did the first... |
| 0:28.0 | When did the first news of the whistleblower part of this come up? |
| 0:32.0 | Was it a week and a half ago now yeah it was the Friday before last |
| 0:35.4 | It was like just just over a week ago. Yeah, yeah. I mean like maybe 10 days exactly right right so the whole thing even even from the |
| 0:44.1 | sort of the origin point and and for the first like four or five days it was just |
| 0:50.9 | sort of like another kind of one of these semi obscure things that |
| 0:55.5 | Adam Schiff is sort of like up in arms about but I have to say perhaps to you Josh |
| 1:00.4 | I know you seems like you were kind of early on that story I mean we |
| 1:03.6 | didn't know exactly the full weight of it yet but you know you were kind of |
| 1:09.1 | of tracing the kind of weird block of the you know the whistleblower complaint and stuff |
| 1:15.0 | like that it yeah I mean I don't think anybody could have predicted how this |
| 1:18.1 | turned out but it did really morph from this like just another congressional |
| 1:22.0 | investigation one of many where you know it's just |
| 1:24.4 | really hard to kind of keep track of what's going on into I mean what really seems to be I mean |
| 1:29.4 | pushing at least Democrats towards impeachment right now yeah it definitely seems, I mean I don't think this is a game changer in the sense of like |
| 1:36.6 | Trump's going to be removed from office, but I do think it's a game changer certainly |
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