Between 2028 and 2035 is sort of the future that we're looking at in terms of how multi-demand operations as a concept addresses how we fight differently in the future.

And I think that's also the time period that aligns nicely with the delivery of new material solutions.

And it's not so far out in the future where you've sort of driven past your headlights

and you are more guessing about what the future will look like.

In the past, the way that we've built capabilities for Army personnel is that, hey, we built

something for you, now you go out and use it.

I think in the future, we're going to expect operational Army, tactical Army, to be at the center of capability development.

Hey, welcome to another episode of the Modern War Institute podcast.

I'm John Amble, editorial director at MWI, and this is another episode in a series we've been

occasionally releasing over the past

couple months. Each of those episodes has featured a conversation I had the chance to record

sort of on the sidelines of a conference organized by the Army's mad scientist program.

In this episode, you'll hear a discussion I had with two guests. The first Major General

John George is the Deputy director of the Army's

Futures and Concept Center, and he will soon take over as the commander of the Combat Capabilities

Development Command. My second guest is Mr. Jay Harrison, who serves as the Command Innovation Officer

at Army Futures Command. As you can tell by their roles, this was a discussion all about the future

and innovation. But as you'll hear, that goes well beyond the sort of high-tech gadgetry we

often think of when we talk about the future battlefield. It's also about new ways of organizing,

new doctrine, new personnel policies, and much more. This episode really does give you the listeners, arguably about the best reflection of just

how the army is going about preparing to operate, to fight, and to win on the battlefield of the

future.

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