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PLANTSTRONG Podcast

Ep. 80: Michael Jacobson - Salt: The Good, The Bad, and the Truth

PLANTSTRONG Podcast

Rip Esselstyn

Health & Fitness, Alternative Health, Medicine, Nutrition

4.8 • 2.3K Ratings

🗓️ 15 April 2021

⏱️ 52 minutes

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Summary

Do you have a love affair with the salt shaker? Having trouble breaking yourself of the pre-packaged food addiction? Do you have a ballpark guess for the recommended amount of sodium you should be consuming on a daily basis? What about the devastating consequences of too much salt in your diet?

Don’t be alarmed or ashamed with any of your answers if you just don’t know. It’s not your fault. We all fall prey to marketing and the lure of salty foods and today Rip speaks with researcher and author, Michael Jacobson, about his recent book, “Salt Wars - The Battle over the Biggest Killer in the American Diet.”

Michael Jacobson is one of the preeminent scientists who has been fighting on the front lines in Washington DC - literally going to political battle for our health for more than 50 years.

He is co-founder of the Center for Science and the Public Interest, which was developed in 1971 as a Health Advocacy Group for Food Safety and Nutrition. The CSPI may not sound familiar to you, but their work will - they are responsible for nutrition facts labeling on food products, getting junk foods out of schools, and removing trans fat out of the food supply -- to name a few of their landmark efforts.

Today, though, he speaks with Rip about our love affair with salt. Why has it become so prevalent in our diet (much of it without us even realizing!)? What are the impacts on our health? And, most importantly, how can we ditch the desire for that extra dash at every meal?

Michael F. Jacobson, Ph.D. is a co-founder and long-time Executive Director of Center for Science in the Public Interest (CPSI), now serving as a Senior Scientist. Jacobson has written numerous books and reports, including Salt Wars: The Battle Over the Biggest Killer in the American Diet; Eater’s Digest: the Consumer’s Fact Book of Food Additives, Nutrition Scoreboard; Salt: the Forgotten Killer; and Liquid Candy: How Soft Drinks are Harming Americans’ Health. He has also been honored with such awards as the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention’s Hero Award (2010), the American Public Health Association’s David P. Rall award for advocacy in public health (2011), and the Food Marketing Institute’s Esther Peterson Consumer Service Award (1992). His Ph.D. in microbiology is from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology.

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0:00.0

So in your opinion is the most harmful substance in the American diet, salt or sugar?

0:07.7

I think it's salt. It's kind of weighing the apples and oranges. Salt is causing 50 to 100,000

0:20.5

premature deaths every year. Salt causes hypertension, kidney disease, heart disease, and strokes.

0:29.8

It's a pretty direct relationship with sugar. A major problem is contributing to weight gain,

0:39.9

particularly beverages. That's what evidence is clearest.

0:48.4

Season three of the Plant Strong podcast explores those Galileo moments where you seek

0:56.0

to understand the real truth around your health and dare to see the world through a different lens.

1:04.2

This season we honor those courageous seekers who are paving the way for you and me.

1:11.7

So grab your telescope, point it towards your future, and let's get Plant Strong together.

1:18.4

Welcome to another episode of the Plant Strong podcast. I'm Rip Eselston. I have a few honest

1:29.6

questions for you as we kick off today's episode. First, do you have a love affair with the

1:36.0

salt shaker? Are you having trouble breaking yourself of the pre-packaged food addiction?

1:43.7

Do you have a ballpark guest for the recommended amount of sodium? You should be consuming on a

1:48.8

daily basis. What about the devastating consequences of too much salt in your diet?

1:55.8

Don't be ashamed or alarmed with any of your answers if you just don't know, because it's not your

2:03.0

fault. We all fall prey to marketing and the lore of salty foods. Trust me. That's one of the

2:10.9

reasons why I'm here. To help cut through the BS and get straight to the research and the truth

2:16.8

about sodium. My guest today is one of the preeminent scientists who has been fighting on the

2:22.4

frontlines in Washington, DC, literally going to political battle for my health and yours for more

2:29.6

than 50 years. Michael Jacobson is a rock star researcher and the author of the recently released

2:36.3

book, Salt Wars, The Battle Over The Biggest Killer in the American Diet. He is co-founder of the

2:43.2

Center for Science and the Public Interest, which was developed in 1971 as a health advocacy group

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