The streets of Chicago were taken over by mobs of teens perpetrating violence against innocent

victims also a tale of two shootings. There was a young woman and a young man both shot for

getting close to the wrong house by mistake, but how the media is

talking about these stories based on the race of the victims tells us a really sad story about

race relations and journalism in America today. We are talking to Heather McDonald. She is a fellow at the Manhattan Institute. She's a contributing editor for a city journal. She's written lots of books. She's a

Yale graduate to Cambridge University in Stanford as well. And she talks a lot about race and policing and disparities among whites and

Asians and Black people. She recently wrote a book called When Race Trump's Marit how the pursuit of equity sacrifices

is excellent destroys beauty and threatens life. So we will be talking about all of this today, including how racial quotas is damaging not just academia, but also the fields of medicine and science. So it's kind

of a scary conversation, but it's really important for us to know what's going on. This episode is brought to you by your friends at Go to

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All right, before we get into that conversation, I understand the reaction and response probably that I'm going to get from some people

about this and look like I'll just be honest with you. This conversation about race and about disparities and why there are disparities when it comes

to academic outcomes when it comes to the link when C when it comes to incarceration, like this is an uncomfortable conversation for me to have to to hear some of the statistics to look at the data and Heather offers a very

Kurt a database, but a very Kurt a very blunt analysis of why these disparities exist. So I just encourage you to see this conversation for what it is.

Looking at statistics and wanting to find solutions to these disparities and these problems that actually benefit all communities, including communities that are predominantly black and brown. I know it can be

difficult to hear some of the harsh things that are said, but this is coming from a place of wanting things to be better for everyone. And the fact of the matter is the diversity, equity and inclusion, the progressive policies,

affirmative action, all the left has actually damaged the very communities that the left says that they care about and are serving. So that's what this is about.

Obviously on this podcast, we believe that everyone is made in the image of God. Everyone has the same innate worth. Everyone has an equal place. If you are apart from Christ, you are equally dead and sin. If by grace through faith,

you have been saved by Christ, and you are equally alive and him. That is the world view that we are operating from what we are talking about today is data. What we are talking about today is media bias. We are talking about statistical disparities and what is actually behind those things. So no, that that like that is where this is coming from. This is an uncomfortable conversation. I think for a lot of people understandably so, but we have to be willing to look at these facts.

And we have to be able to ever solve any of the problems that I know all of us, no matter what side that you are on really want to solve. So without further ado, here is our guest today, Heather McDullard.

All right, Heather, thank you so much for taking the time to join us. I've been wanting to talk to you for such a long time.

Has been a fan and admirer of your work for a while. Before we get into your book when race, Trump's mayor, I want to talk to you about these news stories that I haven't had the chance to break down myself on the show.

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