Hello, Mark here.

Just to say this episode of the podcast was recorded before Sir Alex Ferguson was taken ill,

and I thought I would just flag it here at the top, as it might sound a little in Congress,

that we didn't mention it when discussing him during the show.

I'm sure you'll join us in wishing him a very speed of recovery.

And with that, here's the show over to you

Tim welcome to the award-winning dear lovejoy podcast and it's a special

today we're having a conversation with Matthew Syed who's written a book

you are awesome which is a book about well it's written for teenagers really um and it's a it's a guide for them

to go through life and try and be successful at life is i got to say it's a really good book

i really thoroughly enjoyed reading it and the format of it's fantastic and i think it's um it's a

really good idea for anyone who doesn't know who matthew is he used to be G.B.'s number one table tennis

player. He wrote a book called Bounce, which is where I first got introduced to him,

really, because I loved it. It was a really good book about how practice and maybe practice is more

important than talent, but we discussed this on the podcast and then the he wrote black box

thinking which is another good book he's also writes for the times he's a journalist

writes a lot does a lot of interviews for them and writes for them and he's also got a podcast with

ruby savage and freddy flintov which is called flintov savage and the ping pong guy which i

listen to and i like where they discuss all sports stuff. So this is sort of a chat about his

book, but it's also, because he's, he writes and knows a lot about sport, and he's a big thinker

about it all. We sort of get stuck into some quite interesting subjects. I thought, I was just,

what I wanted to say just very quickly was that, um that not everyone's into sport, I don't think.

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